Rudolf Geschwind: A new appraisal of life and work of an outstanding rose breeder

[SerenaSYH]

Hi, Hannes I was going to go back and edit my own replies, but something came up timewise. I was that crazy about the rose that I suddenly thought Serena, you better recheck that rose on HMF. You never know, there might be someone who carries a rose straight from Germany..... And sure enough, I did find Vintage Gardens. I have tried ordering a couple of roses for them for 2012 when they announced they were going to close their nursery...Their custom roots are extremely!!! expensive. About $50 USD if you include shipping costs, YIKES!!!! I already ordered their custom root Royal Dane/Troika and received it last week. I am still keeping my fingers crossed that my health is not the dreaded health situation that it might end up being... and that I soon return back to full-time work. I'll bookmark your link. I'm a strong supporter of buying from specialty nurseries, so I will keep on trying and saving up money...It is truly a magnificent rose. I have a spot in mind for it if my rugosa fails to take (also from Vintage).....Basically I need a rose strong and tall enough to keep up with my shrubs and tough enough to withstand rabbits. I love rugosas but I worry about the rebloom factor.....I really want a strong sturdy rose with great rebloom that I don't have to keep putting ugly wire mesh around. That rose seems to be a total winner. Vigorous, it has the same bush appearance to match my front yard hedges, a good rebloomer, etc.

Anyway, we absolutely loved your thread Hannes and am looking forward to more of your Rose History!

[elemire]

Originally Posted by SerenaSYH

It is truly a magnificent rose. I have a spot in mind for it if my rugosa fails to take (also from Vintage).....Basically I need a rose strong and tall enough to keep up with my shrubs and tough enough to withstand rabbits. I love rugosas but I worry about the rebloom factor.....I really want a strong sturdy rose with great rebloom that I don't have to keep putting ugly wire mesh around. That rose seems to be a total winner. Vigorous, it has the same bush appearance to match my front yard hedges, a good rebloomer, etc.

Asta von Parpart does not have a very good rebloom, actually it is more like twice blooming at the best, like most of the older reblooming roses (well ok, compared to no rebloom it is a good rebloom, but nothing like modern rose). Also, some of Geschwind's roses are rather prone to blackspot, as most of the hybrid perpetuals actually - I know it is an issue for you, so you might want to investigate before buying it expensive.

Also did you try to grow Rose de Rescht by the way? It is a bit similar and much easier to obtain.

[bauerjan]

@ Hannes

I am afraid that my "Schneelicht" has semi-double
flowers. I originally purchased it from Schultheis in Germany.
Do you know perchance the correct name of my rose?

Best regards,

Jimmy

[rosarom]

Great topic, I love readin roses history.
And very nice roses, I will try to buy some of them, it is a pitty not to. After this hard winter I have to replace some of my roses that have suffered severe frost damage, and mabe that is the place to look, even if my list is long.
As for Rose de Rescht, Hannes, I can send you one own root in fall, as I have a 10 years old one and it is already on own roots, even if it was grafted. Next to him I have some new ones that have appeared last year.It is no problem to take one out and send it to you.

[hannes]

@ bauerjan: Jimmy, I'm afraid I don't know the name of the rose that is often sold as 'Schneelicht'. The flowers of the two plants I've seen resemble 'Madame Georges Bruant' but I'd guess there also might be other contenders.

greetings
Hannes

[SerenaSYH]

Thanks so much for the rebloom warning, Elemire! Oh, what a beautiful rose that Asta is....such a shame it only blooms twice a year...Does yours Blackspot Elemire? How long has it been blooming in your garden? Would love to see yours!

Hey, guess what I have a new rose friend from the Netherlands too, Elemire. Met him 3 days ago, and he is all-organics! Such a beautiful garden Johann has as well. How I met him online was when I posted my photos of my favorite HT/lost Gemini standard on HMF, moaning about how I missed it and how year after year I keep writing J&P to please oh please bring back this tree rose/standard in my rose commentary. Neither can you purchase this Standard anywhere in the world. It was created and produced only by J&P...I've called I've emailed I'm one major Perennial PEST, lol! But J&P still won't bring it back.I don't know why they don't - it is an absolute winner of a standard rose! Instead they are determined to change out their HT tree roses/standards every single year. No HT standard stays the same but they still keep their same old-same old floribunda ones, or even worse, the Knockout tree rose, UGH! Well, immediately Johann showed me his gorgeous hand-created budded standard...Absolutely jaw-droppingly beautiful... Later he emailed me a series of individual how-to photos as well....Of course Lopsided Lumpy Gardener will make a mess of things, I'm sure! Plus it takes 3 years of waiting for the rose to gain height so I'm sure I will kill plenty in the interim, so it will probably end up a 15 year project

Anyway, Johann's series was fantastic, so clear and sooooo easy to understand. The photos were labeled in Dutch, but I could definitely see what was going on....

Elemire, I forgot to ask. How good is the rebloom for your Rose de Rescht? What made me hesitate long ago with the rose was the description"scattered later rebloom".... and the "varying" reports.....Nevertheless I can blame you for making me decide on Laguna...It too has varying reports on the rebloom factor. Your photo made me decide to take a risk. Yours was a baby young rose last year, so I'm hoping this year your Laguna will bloom more too

[elemire]

Originally Posted by SerenaSYH

Thanks so much for the rebloom warning, Elemire! Oh, what a beautiful rose that Asta is....such a shame it only blooms twice a year...Does yours Blackspot Elemire? How long has it been blooming in your garden? Would love to see yours!

I don't have it, but a friend in Lithuania has, as it is quite hardy rose. Hers blackspots significantly I believe, if it is humid and warm in the summer.

I will answer the rest in your thread, as the discussion is a bit steering away from the original topic.

I asked Bierkreek about their clones of Aurelia Liffa and Geschwinds Orden, and they also think that those two are the same. I wonder who has the foundling Aurelia Liffa...

[rosarom]

Rose de rescht has more than scatered blooms in the second flush in my garden.
And iti is a gorgeous rose for syrup and jam, with Kazanlik. It gives them added colour.
I have some pictures here
http://la-gradina.blogspot.com/2011/...de-rescht.html

[SerenaSYH]

ohhhh, drrroooool! Rosarum!!! Gorgeous jawdropping photos .... Love the deep shadows that make the RdR just glooooow! Hehe, I went back to Asta just now and I finally noticed that the amazing Asta bush specimen was Hannes too lol! You all are all-too- good!! I keep drooling over these photos....

Thanks so much Elemire! I'm looking forward to reading on your reply on my thread as well!

Back to topic- Hannes, coincidentally last night my new Netherlands friend was recommending Lens and Geschwind roses to my very frustrated organics rose friend who is about ready to give up on roses. His particular Geshwinds do really well organically. I'm not sure yet which ones Johann grows.

[schrammd]

Hannes, hello,
Of course I was fascinated by your review of the Baumann and Unmuth article. As you know from a couple of years ago, I have been trying to find out more about Anna Scharsach, both the person and the rose. Were there any details on this rose in that article?
Darrell